Private poma/ t-bar off 91 North in VT?

djspookmandjspookman advanced
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On the way to Dartmouth Skiway yesterday, my wife and I noticed what appeared to be the top terminal of a t-bar/poma just off the east side of the northbound lanes of 91 in VT.  This is between the Norwich and Thetford exits. I scoured google maps, but came up with nothing; either because it's new, or because its so small it isn't picked up. Has anyone else seen this?

I think it's rather new because I travel this route frequently in summer, but have never seen it before.

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  • ski_itski_it expert
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    On the east side? So over the river and through the woods to New Hampshire? I take it that it wasn't Storrs Hill in Lebanon but how about Storrs Pond Recreation Area in Hanover. They have mountain biking trails.

    http://www.storrspond.org/activities/mountain-biking/

    Is it on the east side of rt 10?

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  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    I think they mean off the side of the highway, in Vermont. Several fields show up on satellite- no evidence of lift
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Storrs is south of the southbound lane of I-89, a long way from Norwich or Thetford. 
  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
    edited January 4 Posts: 295
    No.. not Storrs. It's literally on the east side of the highway, like 100 feet off the traveled lane. super close, and dosen't show up on google...(yet?)  (which is why I can't locate it!)

  • ski_itski_it expert
    edited January 4 Posts: 1,559

    Storrs is south of the southbound lane of I-89, a long way from Norwich or Thetford. 



    I know where they are, I don't know where he is. Storrs Hill is only 5.6 miles in a straight line from the Norwich exit on I-91, but most likely not visible from there.

    Storrs Pond Recreation Area is less than a mile east of I-91. But both are clearly farther than 100 ft away, so is this a top down ski area from I-91 down towards the river? Do you think it was after that bend in the road right before the 113 exit? 

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  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    No.. not Storrs. It's literally on the east side of the highway, like 100 feet off the traveled lane. super close, and dosen't show up on google...(yet?)  (which is why I can't locate it!)

    How far from either exit? I see some potential fields on GE and if you can narrow down the location maybe Street View will show something?
  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
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    How far from either exit? I see some potential fields on GE and if you can narrow down the location maybe Street View will show something?

    I can't recall/.. I've been scouring google earth streetview up and down 91 all morning and am coming up with nothing. I'll have to look for it, stop in the brakedown lane and snap a pic next time I'm up that way.
  • ski_itski_it expert
    edited January 4 Posts: 1,559


    How far from either exit? I see some potential fields on GE and if you can narrow down the location maybe Street View will show something?

    I can't recall/.. I've been scouring google earth streetview up and down 91 all morning and am coming up with nothing. I'll have to look for it, stop in the brakedown lane and snap a pic next time I'm up that way.
    Ya didn't make a stop at Harpoon, River Roost or Jasper's  before that, did ya?  ;)   Stopping on the highway sounds dangerous, use your Go-Pro or SkiTracks App instead.
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  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
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    ski_it said:


    How far from either exit? I see some potential fields on GE and if you can narrow down the location maybe Street View will show something?

    I can't recall/.. I've been scouring google earth streetview up and down 91 all morning and am coming up with nothing. I'll have to look for it, stop in the brakedown lane and snap a pic next time I'm up that way.
    Ya didn't make a stop at Harpoon, River Roost or Jasper's  before that, did ya?  ;)   Stopping sounds dangerous, use your Go-Pro or SkiTracks App instead.
    LOL.. no stops at the fun places before!

    I think this is the general spot; although GE only shows a burn pile at its location:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7290164,-72.2815863,3a,85y,115.69h,84.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smbVvc6O4X6gCfgpKu06_Yg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

  • JMaulJMaul advanced
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    The only area that has any type of supporting vertical and orientation is in the area of River Road Vet and Killdeer Farm.

    43.734609, -72.273804 

    I searched the interwebs for those places and found nothing about a lift.
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  • Bill29Bill29 advanced
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    Is there a local road parallel to Route 91 in that neck of the woods? Maybe you can get off the Interstate and drive back to that site and slake your curiosity. Or, see ski it's suggestion above. Or, to hell with it.
  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
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    Bill29 said:

    Is there a local road parallel to Route 91 in that neck of the woods? Maybe you can get off the Interstate and drive back to that site and slake your curiosity. Or, see ski it's suggestion above. Or, to hell with it.

    yea, there is a local road, I'll check it next time I'm up there. Who knows, the whole thing might just be some rednecks overbuilt laundry line!
  • ski_itski_it expert
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    I was just funning with DJ. I also did some IE searches & only turned up this post. I checked the Thetford Academy site, It says they train at Dartmouth. Any Nordic areas around there? Jmaul why not in the Quail John Rd part of Thetford.

    And yes, rt 5 parallels 91. 

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  • bousquet19bousquet19 advanced
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    Interesting.  That's not an area of VT that I know.

    We usually solve these Hey-I-saw-a-ski-area! posts pretty quickly.  Glad to have a stumper and hope that it does turn out to be at least a "place to ski".

    Woody
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited January 4 Posts: 806

    Storrs is south of the southbound lane of I-89, a long way from Norwich or Thetford. 

    Storrs is across the river from 91, nowhere near 89.  Coordinates are N 43.72233 W 72.26133.
  • newpylongnewpylong advanced
    edited January 4 Posts: 469
    obienick said:

    Storrs is south of the southbound lane of I-89, a long way from Norwich or Thetford. 

    Storrs is across the river from 91, nowhere near 89.  Coordinates are N 43.72233 W 72.26133.
    No - Storrs "Hill" (the New England History page you linked to) is very much near 89, so much so you can see it from the highway about 1 mile away.

    Storr's Pond up in Hanover is not, but doesn't have a lift either.
  • mapnutmapnut expert
    edited January 4 Posts: 746

    ski_it said:

    The USGS topo at djspookman's spot shows a 60-70 vertical-foot drop away from the Interstate down to a brook. It's cleared and there's a driveway in to that spot, off Goodrich 4 Corners Road. I also did a survey of the topo in the area and didn't see any more likely-looking spot.

    Oh, and I see the brush or log pile in both the street view and the aerial, and the driveway is going steeply uphill to the high point.


  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
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    mapnut said:

    ski_it said:
    The USGS topo at djspookman's spot shows a 60-70 vertical-foot drop away from the Interstate down to a brook. It's cleared and there's a driveway in to that spot, off Goodrich 4 Corners Road. I also did a survey of the topo in the area and didn't see any more likely-looking spot.
    yup. Enough for some quick 'after work' laps if it is indeed someones private tow! (I have a 40' vert hill at my house that's pretty fun..but no tow yet ;) )

  • mapnutmapnut expert
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    JMaul's location has 120 to 140 vertical feet but is all wooded.

  • JMaulJMaul advanced
    edited January 4 Posts: 213

    ski_it said:

    The USGS topo at djspookman's spot shows a 60-70 vertical-foot drop away from the Interstate down to a brook. It's cleared and there's a driveway in to that spot, off Goodrich 4 Corners Road. I also did a survey of the topo in the area and didn't see any more likely-looking spot.

    Oh, and I see the brush or log pile in both the street view and the aerial, and the driveway is going steeply uphill to the high point.


    I checked this area as well. Looked more like a logging/firewood operation. Could have changed but the vertical didn't seem to warrant a T-Bar. Rope tow? Maybe.
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  • ME2VTskierME2VTskier intermediate
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    JMaul said:

    ski_it said:

    The USGS topo at djspookman's spot shows a 60-70 vertical-foot drop away from the Interstate down to a brook. It's cleared and there's a driveway in to that spot, off Goodrich 4 Corners Road. I also did a survey of the topo in the area and didn't see any more likely-looking spot.

    Oh, and I see the brush or log pile in both the street view and the aerial, and the driveway is going steeply uphill to the high point.


    I checked this area as well. Looked more like a logging/firewood operation. Could have changed but the vertical didn't seem to warrant a T-Bar. Rope tow? Maybe.
    Maybe someone's aerial log yarder setup?

  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
    edited January 5 Posts: 295



    Maybe someone's aerial log yarder setup?

    yah, that could be too, but it's awfully small for that I think. It's definitely got a small return bullwheel (40"? or so) and something hanging off it that looks like a t-bar carrier/ poma stick.
  • ski_itski_it expert
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    You can remember all that but not where it is?? :D :D
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  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
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    ski_it said:

    You can remember all that but not where it is?? :D :D

    LOL.. yeah, the joys of my brain!  The google maps link above in a previous shows were it is.


  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
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    I stopped in to check this thing out today.. it is indeed a private poma/ disc lift!  Pictures coming tomorrow at this short and STEEP little area!.... "Grill Hill"

    D
  • JMaulJMaul advanced
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    I stopped in to check this thing out today.. it is indeed a private poma/ disc lift!  Pictures coming tomorrow at this short and STEEP little area!.... "Grill Hill"

    D

    Interesting.......Can't wait to see.
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  • djspookmandjspookman advanced
    edited March 7 Posts: 295
    Ok, so here it is; Grill Hill, Norwich, VT. Might just be VT's 'newest' platter pull. This is PRIVATE land though, and I took all images from the public road (which is only about 30 feet from the bottom terminal).  Anyone know what manufacturer  (if any) this might be?  It has a nice floating return bullwheel.  There is quite a bit of varied terrain they've been shaping that accessed by this surface lift; steep glades, some field, some narrow workroad. Also looks to have lights for some limited night skiing. Looks like it was a fun personal project!

    D


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  • MrMagicMrMagic advanced
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    Awesome nice work
  • mapnutmapnut expert
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    Thanks for the follow-up! If that's the location we found above, looks like the vertical is about 80 feet? 
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