A GONDY AT BELLEAYRE??

JMaulJMaul advanced
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I can think of other better uses for the $8M

You ski because even if you don't do it well, it's still a blast....

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  • mapnutmapnut expert
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    I totally agree! No one will ride that gondola to ski top-to-bottom. I already wish that their high-speed quad didn't go so far down the flats. I'd rather see the Tomahawk quad made high-speed.

    I've seen a couple of different upgrade plans for Belleayre, both of which included longer lifts that go further down the flats, but not a gondola. If it's only a 6-minute ride for 1400 vertical feet, the comfort isn't worth the extra money. Sounds like a big favor for the resort developer. Cue the griping from Hunter and Windham in 3...2...1...

  • marcskimarcski advanced
    Posts: 198
    Screw Hunter and Windham. Both of those are owned by either a major ski resort corporation player or a bumch of hedge fund guys. What about Platty...the sole independent mountain in the Cats. As a NY'er I would rather my tax dollars went elsewhere...what about a 0% loan to Plattekill?
  • bousquet19bousquet19 advanced
    Posts: 214
    marcski said:

    Screw Hunter and Windham. Both of those are owned by either a major ski resort corporation player or a bumch of hedge fund guys. What about Platty...the sole independent mountain in the Cats. As a NY'er I would rather my tax dollars went elsewhere...what about a 0% loan to Plattekill?

    Right, marcski.

    A gondola at Platty!

  • mapnutmapnut expert
    Posts: 715
    Platty doesn't need much, except more skiers. Right now I'm not inclined to drive the extra miles past Belleayre to Platty, but if Belleayre gets more crowded I might.
  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
    edited February 17 Posts: 940
    "The additions of the new gondola, and modern day lodge amenities at Belleayre..."



    I predict that this will cost closer to $16 million when all is said and said and said and then finally when all is done
  • mapnutmapnut expert
    edited February 17 Posts: 715

    I wonder if there's a way skiers can get an input to the decision makers. "I ski there twice a year and don't think you need a gondola." That should convince them.

    Folks on Alpine Zone are suggesting that if they want to shell out for a gondola, it should start near Belleayre Beach and develop 1900 vertical feet of new terrain. 


  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
    Posts: 940
    Might be a fun exercise to come up with a new chair plan, blank canvas for lifts BUT based on reality of the existing trail layout.  Here's an image if anyone is interested


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  • mapnutmapnut expert
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    For the existing trails the only thing I'd like to see is a replacement of the Tomahawk quad. Redeveloping Highmount is supposed to be in the plans and that would have good sustained pitch. For new terrain I'd like to see a HSQ parallel to the present Express (which would stay, they'll need the capacity) but further east. It would start down in Cathedral Glen slightly lower than the Express, and go to the peak above Roaring Brook which is slightly higher. Thus over 1200 vertical feet. The terrain in there has good fall lines for green, blue and black trails. That's the only place you could add terrain without long flat runouts.
  • JMaulJMaul advanced
    edited February 17 Posts: 201
    This was from Dec 2015 when the private expansion and development of Belle was approved.
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  • JMaulJMaul advanced
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    Here's a scary plan. 
    Hope money runs out before they construct this mess.image
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  • T_BoneT_Bone novice
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    Belleayre, like most NYS owned parks, golf courses, etc. has been starved for capital investment from the state for many years.  However, they are now under ORDA which seems to have more funding than NYSDEC.  I like the idea of extending the area into the hamlet of Pine Hill which could use the economic boost.  A gondola seems pricey but might help attract more off season visitors.  Hunter and Windham seem to be doing well.  Would Plattekill qualify for some IDA funding?  NYS somehow helped Oak Mountain get a new lift some years back. 
  • LiftGuyLiftGuy advanced
    Posts: 121
    Wonder where they plan to get a gondola for $5M?
  • gtdgtd novice
    Posts: 2
    A gondola isn't going to attract me to Belleayre, expand into the old Highmount area would.
    Currently prefer to go the extra 20 minutes to Plattekill.

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