Ski Chantecler Trail Map Numbering System

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This is interesting - a trail map for a 22 trail system that starts at #33 - anybody know why?

Ski Chantecler Trail Map

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  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    I figured it out - they are just a fraction of their previous size, other sides of the hill are now closed.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Interesting layout on Google Earth. Looks like it was connected to an area to the SE via a lift? Nothing on their page about the former area.
  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
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    NELSAP said:

    I figured it out - they are just a fraction of their previous size, other sides of the hill are now closed.

    Yep, runs on mountain no. 1 had trails 11-17; mountain no. 2 would be numbered in the 20s, mountain no. 3 in the 30s and the bigger mountain 4 in the numbers in the 40s. Mountain 1 was the oldest and is next to the Chanteclerc Hotel. Overtime, the resort pulled back from #2, #3 and eventually mountain #1.

    If you would have an even older version of the Chanteclerc (ie. early 1980s), it would be even more obvious.


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  • frozenforeverfrozenforever novice
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    SkiMap.org has maps for them showing the abandonment of a lot of their terrain.  Kinda sad.
  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    I'm hoping to ski there this winter. Will take some pics.
  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    There is another lost area 0.5 miles east of the hotel, though not sure which one it is. Trails all clear.
  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    Actually that other area is Les Pentes 40-80, no lifts but is public park.
  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
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    NELSAP said:

    Actually that other area is Les Pentes 40-80, no lifts but is public park.

    Hill 40-80 closed over 15 years ago. It was pretty small.

    The Laurentians have so many lost areas, off the top of mind, here are some that have closed in the last 30-40 years between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe.

    La Marquise
    Carling Lake
    Mont Christie
    Mont Bellevue
    Sun Valley
    Chalet Cochand - Auberge Yvan Coutu
    Mont Castor
    Mont Alouette
    Mont Ste-Agathe
    Mont Plante
    Mont Tyrol
    Mont Césaire
    Mont Sauvage (lost for 20+ years, reopen recently)
    Mont Alta (no more lifts, but now more earn your turns paid access)
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  • usafnav2191usafnav2191 novice
    edited August 10 Posts: 8
    So I was looking at the old trail maps on SkiMap.org and was wondering why they made the decision to close 2/3 of the ski area.  Anyone here know?

    RAH
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal expert
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    MadPatSki said:

    NELSAP said:

    Actually that other area is Les Pentes 40-80, no lifts but is public park.

    Hill 40-80 closed over 15 years ago. It was pretty small.

    The Laurentians have so many lost areas, off the top of mind, here are some that have closed in the last 30-40 years between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe.

    La Marquise
    Carling Lake
    Mont Christie
    Mont Bellevue
    Sun Valley
    Chalet Cochand - Auberge Yvan Coutu
    Mont Castor
    Mont Alouette
    Mont Ste-Agathe
    Mont Plante
    Mont Tyrol
    Mont Césaire
    Mont Sauvage (lost for 20+ years, reopen recently)
    Mont Alta (no more lifts, but now more earn your turns paid access)
    Gray Rocks
    Mt. St. Jovite
  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
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    MadPatSki said:

    NELSAP said:

    Actually that other area is Les Pentes 40-80, no lifts but is public park.

    Hill 40-80 closed over 15 years ago. It was pretty small.

    The Laurentians have so many lost areas, off the top of mind, here are some that have closed in the last 30-40 years between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe.

    La Marquise
    Carling Lake
    Mont Christie
    Mont Bellevue
    Sun Valley
    Chalet Cochand - Auberge Yvan Coutu
    Mont Castor
    Mont Alouette
    Mont Ste-Agathe
    Mont Plante
    Mont Tyrol
    Mont Césaire
    Mont Sauvage (lost for 20+ years, reopen recently)
    Mont Alta (no more lifts, but now more earn your turns paid access)
    Gray Rocks
    Mt. St. Jovite
    I mentioned between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe. ;)
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    A blog of MadPat's World: A History of Skiing Geography
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal expert
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    MadPatSki said:

    MadPatSki said:

    NELSAP said:

    Actually that other area is Les Pentes 40-80, no lifts but is public park.

    Hill 40-80 closed over 15 years ago. It was pretty small.

    The Laurentians have so many lost areas, off the top of mind, here are some that have closed in the last 30-40 years between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe.

    La Marquise
    Carling Lake
    Mont Christie
    Mont Bellevue
    Sun Valley
    Chalet Cochand - Auberge Yvan Coutu
    Mont Castor
    Mont Alouette
    Mont Ste-Agathe
    Mont Plante
    Mont Tyrol
    Mont Césaire
    Mont Sauvage (lost for 20+ years, reopen recently)
    Mont Alta (no more lifts, but now more earn your turns paid access)
    Gray Rocks
    Mt. St. Jovite
    I mentioned between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe. ;)


    As a US citizen, I plead geographic ignorance on Canada :-)

  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    I'm planning a trip there for January - going to likely stay near Saint-Sauveur and hit up 5-6 areas...too many to choose from! I would need 3 weeks to hit them all.
  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
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    NELSAP said:

    I'm planning a trip there for January - going to likely stay near Saint-Sauveur and hit up 5-6 areas...too many to choose from! I would need 3 weeks to hit them all.

    Lost, open or both?
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  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
    edited August 11 Posts: 89

    MadPatSki said:

    MadPatSki said:

    NELSAP said:

    Actually that other area is Les Pentes 40-80, no lifts but is public park.

    Hill 40-80 closed over 15 years ago. It was pretty small.

    The Laurentians have so many lost areas, off the top of mind, here are some that have closed in the last 30-40 years between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe.

    La Marquise
    Carling Lake
    Mont Christie
    Mont Bellevue
    Sun Valley
    Chalet Cochand - Auberge Yvan Coutu
    Mont Castor
    Mont Alouette
    Mont Ste-Agathe
    Mont Plante
    Mont Tyrol
    Mont Césaire
    Mont Sauvage (lost for 20+ years, reopen recently)
    Mont Alta (no more lifts, but now more earn your turns paid access)
    Gray Rocks
    Mt. St. Jovite
    I mentioned between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe. ;)


    As a US citizen, I plead geographic ignorance on Canada :-)

    St-Sauveur to Ste-Agathe is 20 miles. St-Jovite is 20 miles further North, 40 miles from St-Sauveur.

    The area between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe is also the "snowbelt", they get more snow than further north.
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  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    Open areas Pat - really looking forward to it. I have only skied the Eastern Townships (Owls Head, Bromont,  and Mont Joye (lost)). Never been north of Montreal. St Sauveur looks like a good base to get out and hit up the various areas - probably going to ski St Sauveur, Chantecler, Tremblant, Olympia, Morin Heights, and Garceau.
  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
    edited August 11 Posts: 89
    You might want to checkout some less commercial areas also as Olympia and Morin Heights (as well as Gabriel, Avila a few hops away).

    I'll give a couple of that have an old feel to them:
    Mont Avalanche
    Mont Sauvage (reopened after being closed for 2 decades). Not always open, natural snow and weekend only.
    Vallée Bleue

    Other areas that you didn't mentioned between St-Sauveur and Ste-Agathe:
    Habitant
    Gabriel
    Belle Neige

    Mont Blanc is the only other ski areas passed Ste-Agathe when you drive to Tremblant.

    Garceau is a bit out of the way in St-Donat. I really like Garceau, although I haven't skied it since the early 1990s. La Reserve is also in the same town, different vibe.



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  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    Thanks Pat!

    We may be there from a Sun-Fri. If you had to choose 6 areas to visit, what would you say are must visits, in terms of interest, character, history - the ones that us SJ fans would appreciate?

    They all look good to me - and a lot of them have very affordable rates - I saw that Avalanche is $22 Canadian on Monday's - about $17-18 US for all day ticket. That's hard to beat anywhere!
  • MadPatSkiMadPatSki intermediate
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    If the coverage is good and the winter isn't too bad, I would go (for interest and uniqueness).

    Sunday: Mont Sauvage (something like $20 CDN and open only on weekends).
    Monday: Mont Avalanche (or Vallée Bleue): both are small, old school trip back in time feel.
    Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday:
    (in no particular order): St-Sauveur, Chanteclerc, Tremblant, Morin Heights.
    With this, you could be based near St-Sauveur and be close to everything except Tremblant. You have all hills except Tremblant, Sauvage and maybe Avalanche?

    I would replace Olympia with Gabriel if I would have to choose between the 2.

    Garceau (St-Donat) a bit out of the way, you could stay one night there and ski Garceau and La Reserve. You could also had an extra 2 days, ski both in St-Donat and remove Morin Heights or Chanteclerc. I personally prefect MH feel; Chanteclerc has more history (I believe the Hotel is still hotel at the base of Mountain 1 which is right in the village of Ste-Adèle.). They had a double chair(?) that went down and over to Mountain 1 which I had never seen before. Similar to the Sugarbush connector lift, except 10-15 years prior.


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  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    Thanks Pat - great suggestions! I'll let you know what I end up deciding. I found a real affordable condo in St. Sauveur that's close to everything.
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