Trails that are named as two halves of an expression

I'm pretty sure we had this one on SJ1.0, but since that's inaccessible, I thought we could revisit it.  To start:

Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.
Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)
Gore: Agony and Ecstasy.

What can you add?
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  • Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road
  • I don't think Gore has Agony and Ecstasy - Sunday River?
    Gore has Rumor and Lies though.
    JD
  • NELSAP said:

    I don't think Gore has Agony and Ecstasy - Sunday River?
    Gore has Rumor and Lies though.
    JD

    You are correct.

    What is the backstory on Rumor and Lies? I thought I read it somewhere. Wasn't there a third one (Innuendo?) in the mix?
  • I joke that the lie with Lies is that it is a double black. When groomed, it's a high black.

    JD
  • NELSAP said:

    I joke that the lie with Lies is that it is a double black. When groomed, it's a high black.

    JD

    Rumor has quite the pitch, though.
  • Summary/Correction #1
    NH
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Did we determine that there is also an "Innuendo"?

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    Got more?
  • Rumor is wicked steep, agreed!
  • Sunday River has Heat's On / Heat's Off. Not an expression but they go together. 
  • riverc0il said:

    Sunday River has Heat's On / Heat's Off. Not an expression but they go together. 


    Hi Road/Lo Road and Big Dipper/Little Dipper at Black, NH are the same idea
    - Sam
  • edited November 2017

    I think Innuendo was a trail that Gore started to cut but thought better of. You can see a trace of it on aerial photos, between Rumor and Lies.

  • mapnut said:

    I think Innuendo was a trail that Gore started to cut but thought better of. You can see a trace of it on aerial photos, between Rumor and Lies.

    I see that now, thanks. GE labels the connector to Lies as "The Mistake" (and calls Rumor "The Rumor")
  • Ragged: Rags To  -> Riches
  • mapnut said:

    I think Innuendo was a trail that Gore started to cut but thought better of. You can see a trace of it on aerial photos, between Rumor and Lies.

    This is correct. Supposedly, it was all rock ledge where Gore wanted to cut the trail and it would have been difficult to maintain snow on the trail.
  • edited November 2017
    Little & Big Dipper as mentioned above, also at Snow, Catamount has Off Stage & On Stage 

    But I don't think these qualify as an expression?

    If somebody says something outrageous, you might respond "Rumours and Lies!"

    Not sure when the response would be "Little Dipper and Big Dipper!" or "In road and Out road!"

    ???   Never used either expression, personally speaking.

    Who's in charge of this thread?  
    :D

  • Summary/Corrections #2

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    NH
    Ragged: Rags To / Riches
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Innuendo was planned but not completed)

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)

    Pairs that aren't half of an expression:
    ME
    Sunday River: Heat's On / Heat's Off

    NH
    Black Mtn.: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Black Mtn.: Big Dipper/Little Dipper

    NY
    Catamount: Off Stage / On Stage 

    VT
    Mt. Snow: Little Dipper / Big Dipper 
    Killington: High Road/Low Road
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    Got more?
  • well if you are talking "complimentary" trail names rather than "expressions"

    Gore has "Wood-In" and "Wood-Out"   I am not making that up

  • well if you are talking "complimentary" trail names rather than "expressions"


    Gore has "Wood-In" and "Wood-Out"   I am not making that up
    Always follow orders!

    Woody
  • Lies is plenty steep. Is the headwall or average pitch in the top 10 in the state? Almost anything with new corduroy on it isn't that hard.

    Also at Gore: Wood In and Wood Out.

  • Oops sorry rick. Didn't see your post.
  • Two from the Mid-Atlantic:

    Canaan Valley, WV:  Weiss Way In and Weiss Way Out  (to enter and leave the 3 Weiss Meadows runs)

    Timberline, WV:  Herz and Hiz (two short connector trails; Fred Herz is founder and co-owner of T-line)

    Woody
  • Not sure if this qualifies but at Bolton the Devil's Playground is off of Preacher.
    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." 
    Greg Stump
  • Summary/Corrections #2

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    NH
    Ragged: Rags To / Riches
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Innuendo was planned but not completed)

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)

    Pairs that aren't half of an expression:
    ME
    Sunday River: Heat's On / Heat's Off

    NH
    Black Mtn.: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Black Mtn.: Big Dipper/Little Dipper

    NY
    Catamount: Off Stage / On Stage 

    VT
    Mt. Snow: Little Dipper / Big Dipper 
    Killington: High Road/Low Road
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    Got more?
    Sugarbush also has Hi Road/Lo Road on Castlerock.
  • High Road and Low Road should count since it's a song lyric (Loch Lomond).
  • mapnut said:

    High Road and Low Road should count since it's a song lyric (Loch Lomond).

    I thought about that but concluded no, separate thread.

    Song lyrics.


    :)]

  • Much easier when it doesn't have to be an expression.   Got a few:
    Raggedy Ann & Raggedy Andy at Ragged again.
    Big Dipper & Double Dipper at Killington
    Psyched and Psyched Out at Waterville
  • You can probably add Lemon and Lime at Sunapee to that list. They are on South Peak in carpet world.
  • Stratton ought to have an Ursa Major and Ursa Minor.
  • edited February 7
    Summary/Corrections #3

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    NH
    Ragged: Rags To / Riches
    Ragged: Raggedy Ann & Raggedy Andy
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Innuendo was planned but not completed)
    Swain Resort: Last Will/Testament (added 2/7/2018)

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)

    WV
    Timberline:  Herz and Hiz (Fred Herz is founder and co-owner of T-line)


    Pairs that aren't half of an expression:
    ME
    Sunday River: Heat's On / Heat's Off

    NH
    Attitash: Far Out/Farther Out (added 2/7/2018)
    Black Mtn.: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Black Mtn.: Big Dipper/Little Dipper
    Sunapee: Lemon/Lime
    Waterville: Psyched/Psyched Out

    NY
    Catamount: Off Stage / On Stage 
    Gore: Wood In/Wood Out

    VT
    Mt. Snow: Little Dipper / Big Dipper 
    Killington: Big Dipper/Double Dipper
    Killington: High Road/Low Road
    Killington: Somewhere / Nowhere (added 2/7/18)
    Killington: Tin Man / Scarecrow (added 2/7/18)
    Sugarbush: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    WV
    Canaan Valley:  Weiss Way In / Weiss Way Out  (to enter and leave the 3 Weiss Meadows runs)


    Got more?
  • We can use Rags to Riches in the song lyrics thread!  Old tony bennett tune



  • Adding to the list:

    Killington:

    * Somewhere / Nowhere
    * Tin Man / Scarecrow
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