Birdland Chair to be Replaced

Mad Riber Glen has announced as part of their capital campaign that the Birdland Chair will be replaced with a newer used chairlift. It looks like we will soon be saying goodbye to another lattice tower lift. :(

https://www.preservemadriver.com/mountain-preservation/
- Sam
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  • obienickobienick expert
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    Any rumors on what will replace it? Willoughby Quad? The doubles from Stowe?

    How many lattice chairs will we be down to now? I can think of:

    * North Star Double, Big Rock
    * Top Flight Quad, Ski Butternut
    * Single, Mad River Glen
    * Ego Alley, Mt. Snow
    * Triple, Ski Ward

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    obienick said:

    Any rumors on what will replace it? Willoughby Quad? The doubles from Stowe?


    How many lattice chairs will we be down to now? I can think of:

    * North Star Double, Big Rock
    * Top Flight Quad, Ski Butternut
    * Single, Mad River Glen
    * Ego Alley, Mt. Snow
    * Triple, Ski Ward


    Eclipse at Tenney, Summit Double at Black, NH, Valley Double at Pat's Peak

    We lost three over the summer this year :(
    - Sam
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    Black NH
  • newmannewman advanced
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    The lattice towers at Ward a cut 2/3 up and the top section is round Partec tower. Does that make them frankentowers?
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    obienick said:

    Any rumors on what will replace it? Willoughby Quad? The doubles from Stowe?


    How many lattice chairs will we be down to now? I can think of:

    * North Star Double, Big Rock
    * Top Flight Quad, Ski Butternut
    * Single, Mad River Glen
    * Ego Alley, Mt. Snow
    * Triple, Ski Ward

    Maybe Village Double from just down the road?
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 2,344

    obienick said:

    Any rumors on what will replace it? Willoughby Quad? The doubles from Stowe?


    How many lattice chairs will we be down to now? I can think of:

    * North Star Double, Big Rock
    * Top Flight Quad, Ski Butternut
    * Single, Mad River Glen
    * Ego Alley, Mt. Snow
    * Triple, Ski Ward

    Maybe Village Double from just down the road?

    Doubt it, that lift is even older
    - Sam
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal expert
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    I'm surprised it needs replacing.  I doubt they use it  more than 10 to 20 days per season!
  • NJSkiNJSki advanced
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    I'm surprised it needs replacing.  I doubt they use it  more than 10 to 20 days per season!

    I agree. It probably has less running hours on it than lifts that are 20 years younger
  • Posts: 1,105
    What make is the Birdland double? Mueller? Städeli? C/S?
  • ChuckstahChuckstah advanced
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    This pic is from closing weekend last April. The chair wasn't running. I'll miss it when it's replaced. image
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  • newpylongnewpylong expert
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    Mueller lift with Borvig chairs looks like.
  • obienickobienick expert
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    IIRC one of the two lifts that came out had a Poma drive terminal. But they had old towers and line gear.
  • mapnutmapnut expert
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    Good thing it wasn't running, people would fall out.
  • newmannewman advanced
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    Not if they had the safety bar down.
  • NELSAPNELSAP advanced
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    Just spoke with Eric Friedman, Marketing Director @ Mad River - there are no immediate plans for its replacement or a specific used chair in mind to replace it. So you should all have time to check it out for the next few years.

    As a side note, I would expect many of these 50+ year old lifts at various ski areas to be replaced in the next 5-10 years. Even with good maintenance and upgrades, lifts only have a finite lifespan. Although, I am a huge fan of any lattice tower lift!
  • newmannewman advanced
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    Outpost at Pico
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  • riverc0ilriverc0il advanced
    edited December 2017 Posts: 312

    I'm surprised it needs replacing.  I doubt they use it  more than 10 to 20 days per season!

    I believe it runs every weekend Christmas through February holiday (conditions permitting) plus during all holiday periods. Definitely more than 20 days per season except in the worst of years. It is a pretty old lift. 

    Though most MRG skiers don't realize it, the Birdland and Practice Slope chairs are absolutely vital to MRG's sustainability. It is a family mountain and without a place for kids to ski and learn, the mountain wouldn't be sustainable. MRG families would have to get passes somewhere else if youth programs and easier terrain were not available for the kids.

    I am familiar with the Campaign and heard information about it prior to the launch but I wasn't aware that the Birdland Double was part of the campaign. This is obviously not happening anytime soon so the title of the thread is a bit misleading. There are a lot of other parts of the mountain that need fixing prior to a lift that still has a bit of life left in it. And of course, the replacement is entirely dependent on the success of the capital campaign.
  • ChuckstahChuckstah advanced
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    mapnut said:

    Good thing it wasn't running, people would fall out.

    Good one!  If you click on the image it appears correctly, at least on my phone and laptop.
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal expert
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    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
    edited December 2017 Posts: 1,127

    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.

    Same model as Burke's that was just removed. Wonder if they got the parts from that one

  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.


    Same model as Burke's that was just removed. Wonder if they got the parts from that

    This is a screwy window. Anyway, sorry for making it messy...
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    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.


    They use parts from the Poma which is still partly standing at Pico.
    - Sam
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal expert
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    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.


    They use parts from the Poma which is still partly standing at Pico.
    Do you know that for sure or is that a guess?
  • newpylongnewpylong expert
    Posts: 657
    That is indeed what they do.
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
    Posts: 1,127

    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.


    They use parts from the Poma which is still partly standing at Pico.
    Giant Killer? That was a ride...
  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Speaking of old lifts, I wonder how (or from where) Killington finds parts for the Upper Snowden Poma, vintage 1958.

    Boy that girl is as old as I am am looks great
    http://newenglandskihistory.com/lifts/viewlift.php?id=69
  • Posts: 1,105
    That Poma is a blast to ride. It’s very fast. Those crazy single sheaves look like bicycle wheels. The whole thing screams Vive Le France! ;))
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