Advice needed for Massachusetts college tour in April

NJSkiNJSki advanced
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Not ski related, but I am looking for some ideas/advice for a college tour I have planned for April. My daughter is a High School junior, and wants to go to school to become a pharmacist. There are few schools that offer this program, so we have started doing tours. While she is off for the seek after Easte (first week in April) I figured we hit the New England schools. We are going to look at two in Boston (NorthEastern, MCPHS), one in Springfield MA ( U of Western New England), and possibly Albany College of Pharmacy in Albany NY. We have already done Rutgers NJ, UConn, and U of RI.

I am trying to make this a combo college tour for my older daughter, as well as a fun trip for my younger daughter (HS freshman). So I would love some ideas for itinerary, hotels, resorts, things to do. I am sure there will still be skiing somewhere, but not for this trip.

Thanks in advance

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  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing expert
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    NJSki said:

    Not ski related, but I am looking for some ideas/advice for a college tour I have planned for April. My daughter is a High School junior, and wants to go to school to become a pharmacist. There are few schools that offer this program, so we have started doing tours. While she is off for the seek after Easte (first week in April) I figured we hit the New England schools. We are going to look at two in Boston (NorthEastern, MCPHS), one in Springfield MA ( U of Western New England), and possibly Albany College of Pharmacy in Albany NY. We have already done Rutgers NJ, UConn, and U of RI.

    I am trying to make this a combo college tour for my older daughter, as well as a fun trip for my younger daughter (HS freshman). So I would love some ideas for itinerary, hotels, resorts, things to do. I am sure there will still be skiing somewhere, but not for this trip.

    Thanks in advance

    ACPHS has a campus in Colchester, VT. Sure to be skiing not far from there, and Burlington is next door: https://www.acphs.edu/campuses/vermont-campus

    A bit further afield, but very much in ski country...

  • ciscokidciscokid expert
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    Not New England but my niece is about to become a DOCTOR of I guess pharmacology it's called. Ferris State Big Rapids Mi.
    Anyway for a dummy like me the person giving or prescribing drugs.

    Just looking forward to calling her Dr D
    Prob well into six figures to start but she is a huggable respect your elders( big fat uncle) young lady
  • bousquet19bousquet19 advanced
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    As a New England native now living in Virginia, I have to say that the first week in April can be lovely in the Shenandoah Valley.  It's the location of Shenandoah University in Winchester, which has a well-regarded (shameless promotion) environmental studies program as well as a PharmD program.   Happy to provide further details!

    Woody
  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
    edited January 9 Posts: 1,320
    NJSki said:

     So I would love some ideas for itinerary, hotels, resorts, things to do. 

    I used to find a way to drive onto the the wide walking paths and drive around the academic quads (It's easier than you might think).  I would pretend to be lost, throw my hands up, look all confused.   Best one was  Colgate while the students were changing classes.  Another school I drove onto the roof of a building somehow.  My daughters thought they would never get into any college because of me.  Can't believe we did those tours ten years ago already!  time flies.  Enjoy it!!!

    On a more serious note, one cool place that's a pretty easy stop while you're crisscrossing Massachusetts is Purgatory Chasm.  

  • NJSkiNJSki advanced
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    Thanks for the input everyone. She wants to stay within a 4 hour drive of NJ, so that is limiting our school list. I know Boston is a great college town, but we have been there a few times.
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal expert
    edited January 9 Posts: 2,131

    NJSki said:

     So I would love some ideas for itinerary, hotels, resorts, things to do. 

    I used to find a way to drive onto the the wide walking paths and drive around the academic quads (It's easier than you might think).  I would pretend to be lost, throw my hands up, look all confused.   Best one was  Colgate while the students were changing classes.  Another school I drove onto the roof of a building somehow.  My daughters thought they would never get into any college because of me.  Can't believe we did those tours ten years ago already!  time flies.  Enjoy it!!!

    On a more serious note, one cool place that's a pretty easy stop while you're crisscrossing Massachusetts is Purgatory Chasm.  
    If this is a skiing fanatic (and the fact the question is being asked on a skiing forum would suggest that), you can't beat the NY Capital Region where you are within 2 hours of the Adirondacks, the Catskills, the Berkshires and the Greens from Killington south.

    You'll find a great collection of Colleges for all abilities including RPI and Russell Sage (Troy), Union (Schenectady) and SUNY (Albany) and Williams (Williamstown, MA) to name a few. 
  • NJSkiNJSki advanced
    edited January 9 Posts: 316

    NJSki said:

     So I would love some ideas for itinerary, hotels, resorts, things to do. 


    If this is a skiing fanatic (and the fact the question is being asked on a skiing forum would suggest that), you can't beat the NY Capital Region where you are within 2 hours of the Adirondacks, the Catskills, the Berkshires and the Greens from Killington south.

    You'll find a great collection of Colleges for all abilities including RPI and Russell Sage (Troy), Union (Schenectady) and SUNY (Albany) and Williams (Williamstown, MA) to name a few. 



    Thanks Joshua, but the schools we are looking at are limited to the ones I mentioned as they are the only ones in the Northeast that have a Pharmacy school.

    Looking for some ideas of non-skiing things to do while on the one week college tour, and figured I would post it here since so many members live in the region.

    Does anyone have an opinion on a visit to Treehouse Brewery? My friend said I will NEED to stop there by the end of the week!


  • rickbolgerrickbolger expert
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    NJSki said:

    Does anyone have an opinion on a visit to Treehouse Brewery? My friend said I will NEED to stop there by the end of the week!





    >>an opinion

    Yes. IMHO daughters will be bored out of their skulls. save it for another trip. plenty of beer to be found without making an event out of it, and treehouse ain't going out of biz any time soon. You'll want to save that visit to enjoy with friends who enjoy beer, or at least without the distraction of underage daughters who will be rolling their eyes every few minutes asking when do we leave. make this trip about them, and...

    get hotels with indoor pools. send them to the pool, find local beer near hotel. win-win

  • Bill29Bill29 advanced
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        NJSki, Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Science (MCPHS).  has a large branch in Worcester, New England's second largest city (pop., about 185,000). BTW, Boston is about 40 or 45 miles east, but because of traffic congestion, Worcester is easier to get to from N.J. than Boston is, and less expensive, too.
        Worcester is arguably the most accessible (by car) city in New England. Check a map and look at the number of highways that go through or very near it from all points of the compass.
        It is a college town, which comes as a surprise to many people. In addition to the MCPHS branch, it has six four-year colleges or universities within the city limits (Becker, Assumption, Worcester State University, Clark University, Worcester Polytechnic Institute and the College of the Holy Cross, plus Quinsigamond Community College and the University of Massachusetts Medical School), so there are plenty of college-age kids in town.
        For skiing, Mt. Wachusett is about 20 miles north. Ski Ward (210 vert.if you want to warm up) is about 6 miles east. And the aforementioned highway system makes getting to ski areas in Vermont,  New Hampshire, western Massachusetts and even Maine relatively easy. In fact, from Mt. Wachusett on a clear day you can see the top of Mt. Greylock (Mass.),Mt. Snow, Stratton (the Sun Bowl), and a bit of Killington (Vt.), the backs of some of the ski areas in New Hampshire and even, some people say, the top of Mt. Washington. I think that last one takes wonderful eyesight and an even more wonderful imagination, but I could be wrong.
        You said you plan a trip to Boston and Springfield in April. Worcester is an easy stop off the Mass. Pike about halfway between those two cities. Route I290 take you right into the center of the city. I know I sound like the Worcester Chamber of Commerce, but Worcester often is overlooked (especially by some people in Boston) but it is an interesting city and has a lot to offer.

  • NJSkiNJSki advanced
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    NJSki said:





    >>an opinion

    Yes. IMHO daughters will be bored out of their skulls. save it for another trip. plenty of beer to be found without making an event out of it, and treehouse ain't going out of biz any time soon. You'll want to save that visit to enjoy with friends who enjoy beer, or at least without the distraction of underage daughters who will be rolling their eyes every few minutes asking when do we leave. make this trip about them, and...

    get hotels with indoor pools. send them to the pool, find local beer near hotel. win-win
    LOL! Did they talk to you? You sound like you know them well
  • NJSkiNJSki advanced
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    Bill29 said:

        NJSki, Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Science (MCPHS).  has a large branch in Worcester, New England's second largest city (pop., about 185,000). BTW, Boston is about 40 or 45 miles east, but because of traffic congestion, Worcester is easier to get to from N.J. than Boston is, and less expensive, too.
        Worcester is arguably the most accessible (by car) city in New England. Check a map and look at the number of highways that go through or very near it from all points of the compass.
        It is a college town, which comes as a surprise to many people. In addition to the MCPHS branch, it has six four-year colleges or universities within the city limits (Becker, Assumption, Worcester State University, Clark University, Worcester Polytechnic Institute and the College of the Holy Cross, plus Quinsigamond Community College and the University of Massachusetts Medical School), so there are plenty of college-age kids in town.
      
        You said you plan a trip to Boston and Springfield in April. Worcester is an easy stop off the Mass. Pike about halfway between those two cities. Route I290 take you right into the center of the city. I know I sound like the Worcester Chamber of Commerce, but Worcester often is overlooked (especially by some people in Boston) but it is an interesting city and has a lot to offer.

    Thanks Bill. I will look into that option.
  • ski_itski_it expert
    edited January 9 Posts: 2,114

    My niece and her husband both graduated in the last 5 years from MCPHS and have done well, along with all their buddies I met at their wedding. I don't know what they charge or the admissions rate these days but I do know 1st hand that my Northeastern is getting very expensive and harder to get into. I've heard stories that UConns program is real hard to get into and some people find it easier to transfer in. If you want I could try asking her advice on schools for you.

    Bill suggestions are spot on too.

    MCPHS isn't in the best or the worse part of the city but most likely she will be studying so much it won't matter. Harvard Medical is practically next door and the trolley that heads downtown is steps away as are a number of museums.

    Treehouse? It is very good BUT do you want to wait in line to buy beer? I don't care all that much for their signature beer, Julius, it's good, people LOVE it, but I like some of the others better. It is more juicy, rounded beer than other Hoppy IPAs. You may love it, I don't. If you go I suggest going midweek, early, and read the rules & hours before you go. If it is a special can release day, which it usually is, it can get crowded until all the beer snobs get their beer and early won't necessarily matter. There are social media beer apps where peeps will tell you the wait time. They recently built a new facility and closed the old one, then I heard a rumor that both may be open now. When I've gone, you can only buy a set # of the cans they are selling that day, which may be only one kind, perhaps 2 kinds. "Hey, you've got 4 pallets of Julius behind you in the warehouse, can I have some of those?" " No, you can have 12 of this kind (implying, or nothing)"     At the old facility, they wouldn't even sell tastings when it was a busy release day. At the new joint, they do it all, tastings, pours, merch, etc... but IIRC you have to wait in the same line to pay for whatever you want. That may change depending on the crowds, IDK. They have a huge outside pavilion, bands in the brewhouse, I think a fire pit too. We went the Thursday before Thanksgiving in the early afternoon and it was pretty crowded. They were busing us up & back down from the lower parking lot via a 6-8 person Gator (big ATV). There was an 80 person line out the door which got even longer but it didn't take all that long to get in. I didn't check before I went but it was Julius Can Day so....that could explain the crowd. They had it down to a science that day though, with lots of help and the employees were hustling.

    So to summarize, if you like tasty beverages you must go!

         

    ISNE-I Skied New England | NESAP-the New England Ski Area Project | SOSA-Saving Our Ski Areas - Location SW of Boston MA
  • bousquet19bousquet19 advanced
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    NJSki, a few notes (with which you may already be familiar):

    1.  The four-hour limit:  I don't know where you live in NJ, but much of The Garden State is within 4 hours of the Dunn School of Pharmacy at Shenandoah University, Winchester, VA

    2.  Pharmacy is a graduate-level program.  It is not an undergraduate major.  Prospective pharmacists can enter pharmacy school from any accredited undergraduate institution with a four-year degree.  They would major in chemistry or biology (in a pre-pharmacy track) as undergraduates.  However, many universities with pharmacy programs will "pre admit" prospective undergrads to pharmacy ... with the proviso, of course, that they maintain their grades.

    3.  Young adult change their minds about their careers and lives.  Be prepared to be surprised.  I'd suggest encouraging your daughters to look for an undergraduate environment that will nurture, broaden and challenge them rather than "locking in" 6-7 years of university study and a 40-year career at age 18.

    Best wishes to all,
    Woody
  • Bill29Bill29 advanced
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    NJSki, I missed your question about Treehouse Brewery. It's in Charlton, about 8 or10 miles away from Worcester. If local breweries interest you, there are several in and around Worcester. Just Google Central Mass Breweries to get a rundown. There's even a Trappist monastery in nearby Spencer, that brews a Belgian=style beer for sale in local stores.
    Rickbolger mentioned Purgatory Chasm, which is in Sutton, just off Route 146 and a short drive from Worcester, a geologic reserve and state part and well worth a visit. Just watch your step, there are some tricky spots there.
    I don't mean to plan your trip for you, but making Worcester your center for visits to Boston and Springfield might make sense. I'm beginning to convince myself that it's the center of the universe, and with lots of good restaurants, too.
  • BetsyBetsy intermediate
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    Albany College of Pharmacy has a campus in Colchester, Vt (Burlington). Just sayin' ;)
    Outside the 4 hour range but a quick 45-60 minutes flight from Burlington to JFK, Laguardia or Newark.

    Location: Greater Burlington, VT
  • ski_itski_it expert
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    Betsy, you forgot to mention all the tasty beverages available! :)]

    PS: I finally made it to BBC & 14th Star last Indigenous Peoples Day. Both very tasty. My daughter took that quick flight up but JetBlue cancelled the quick one home. :x

    ISNE-I Skied New England | NESAP-the New England Ski Area Project | SOSA-Saving Our Ski Areas - Location SW of Boston MA
  • NJSkiNJSki advanced
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    Thanks all!

    ski_it: Yes, I saw the tuition for NorthEastern is the highest amongst all pharmacy schools, plus they only guarantee freshman housing. After that, you are on your own to find something in Bo$ton. It has a great reputation, but is hard to get into. I was surprised at how close the two Boston schools are. Literally a couple of blocks apart. NE campus looks beautiful.  Heard a few horror stories about UConn's pharmacy school from the kids giving tours at the other schools we have been to. They have gotten a bad rep since switching to a 2+4 school. You have killed any desire I had to go to Treehouse. I hate crowds and lines.

    Woody: I looked at the distance to Shenandoah, and we are at 4 hours and 45 minutes. I might try to take a look when we head south to do the Philadelphia (Temple and U of Sciences) and Baltimore (U of Maryland)

    Bill: I am starting to agree with you about Worcester being a good base.

    Betsy: I wish I could do it over all over again, and I might go there. I almost went to Johnson State College by Stowe when I was younger.   

     

  • ski_itski_it expert
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    NE campus has been steadily modernized. Just don't expect to see any fields of grass. They've been telling that to people about the housing for years, but usually if you apply early enough you'll get a room. At least my daughter always did back 5 years ago.

    I'm sorry if I talked you out of Treehouse, it could be fine on the day you go...but its become pretty popular, like the Alchemist. Tough to know when's the best time/day to be there. There's always Trillium, they have 2 or 3 spots in the area. 

    ISNE-I Skied New England | NESAP-the New England Ski Area Project | SOSA-Saving Our Ski Areas - Location SW of Boston MA
  • obienickobienick expert
    edited January 10 Posts: 1,102
    As a tourist to Boston you'll have to head up to the North End if you're free and walk halfway up Hanover St to get to Mike's Pastry. Best cannoli anywhere. A lot of good (and pricey) restaraunts in that part of Boston, which is basically a Little Italy.  Also some revolutionary historical stuff including Paul Revere's house (very tiny) and the Old North Church.

    An April day in Boston can be anything from 34° and rain to 90° and sunny.  If it's good you can head over to the Prudential Center (close to Northeastern) and I would highly recommend a duck boat tour. Some of the history is a bit exaggerated, but very good entertainment.  Boston is very walkable and if you are in the area of the Common search out Acorn St on your phone's GPS. It's very close to the Common but a bit tricky to describe how to get there. It's the most photographed street in Boston.
  • ERockWERockW novice
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    Our niece went to U of Sciences in Philly.  She has graduated and has a decent job at a hospital doing lab work. It helps that she is smart and driven. Her program was 3 years then a year internship.   Philly has a lot to offer but not the scenery and ski access of Central Mass. Ski options are 2 plus hours away, Blue Mt, Camalback, Shawnee.
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