Well this thread has gone off the rails, but, does it matter?
If the definition of "within" is really, "within," and within is indeed an absolute, virtually none of these qualify based on the population threshold.
None of the B-Hills qualify!
Buck Hill is not within the Minneapolis city limits, it is within Burnsville.
Blue Hills is not within the Boston city limits.
Boyce Park is not within the Pittsburgh city limits.
McIntyre is really quite an oddball. Given the parameters, McIntyre is the only operational lift-served ski area within city limits of a major city (100,000+ population)
There is one other I can find within a major city, Ruby Hill Rail Yard has snowmaking and free rental equipment but no lift.
Hi gang: This is supposed to be fun. When it was apparent that the list of cities with ski areas was exceedingly small, I extended it to 25 miles - but you're right: I didn't explain the 25 miles well.
Keep in mind, after someone's 25 miles came out closer to 50, I checked them all before I added them. For Cleveland, OH as the starting point, I looked at the routes and if the shortest recommended route was over 25 miles, I excluded it.
McIntyre is really quite an oddball. Given the parameters, McIntyre is the only operational lift-served ski area within city limits of a major city (100,000+ population)
I can't speak to all of the others, but Hilltop and Alyeska are both operational lift-served ski areas within the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (population = 294,356)
Hi gang: This is supposed to be fun. When it was apparent that the list of cities with ski areas was exceedingly small, I extended it to 25 miles - but you're right: I didn't explain the 25 miles well.
Keep in mind, after someone's 25 miles came out closer to 50, I checked them all before I added them. For Cleveland, OH as the starting point, I looked at the routes and if the shortest recommended route was over 25 miles, I excluded it.
Hi gang: This is supposed to be fun. When it was apparent that the list of cities with ski areas was exceedingly small, I extended it to 25 miles - but you're right: I didn't explain the 25 miles well.
Keep in mind, after someone's 25 miles came out closer to 50, I checked them all before I added them. For Cleveland, OH as the starting point, I looked at the routes and if the shortest recommended route was over 25 miles, I excluded it.
Hi gang: This is supposed to be fun. When it was apparent that the list of cities with ski areas was exceedingly small, I extended it to 25 miles - but you're right: I didn't explain the 25 miles well.
Keep in mind, after someone's 25 miles came out closer to 50, I checked them all before I added them. For Cleveland, OH as the starting point, I looked at the routes and if the shortest recommended route was over 25 miles, I excluded it.
Strike Boyce Park. It is about 15 miles outside the city limits in Monroeville population about 28,000.
You are correct. It was confusing because the address is in Pittsburgh. Why is that?
Boyce Park is an Allegheny County Park. Pittsburgh is the County Seat. Most County offices are in Pittsburgh in the aptly named City/County Building. Actually, I believe Boyce Park is in Plum Borough but that's still in Allegheny County.
Sky Tavern ski area: actually has a Reno address, 10.5 miles from city limits, or 22 miles from downtown. Tannenbaum ski area (lost): also had a Reno address, 9 miles from city limits, 20.2 from downtown Morgan's Farm (lost, Cedar Grove NJ) 18.5 miles from Manhattan
McIntyre is really quite an oddball. Given the parameters, McIntyre is the only operational lift-served ski area within city limits of a major city (100,000+ population)
I can't speak to all of the others, but Hilltop and Alyeska are both operational lift-served ski areas within the city limits of Anchorage Alaska (population = 294,356)
Indeed they are, but hardly city-ish. McIntyre is unique in that respect
New York City, NY (1): Van Cortland Park (lost) Philadelphia, PA (6): Walnut Hill (lost) Colorado Springs, CO (42): Broadmoor Hotel (lost) Minneapolis, MN (46): Buck Hill Anchorage AK (67): Alyeska Anchorage AK (67): Hilltop Ski Area Manchester, NH:(263): McIntyre
Ski areas within 25 miles of a major city (100K population) New York, NY (1): Morgan's Farm (lost) Philadephia, PA (6): Pine Hill, NJ (lost) Philadephia, PA (6): Wissahickon Ski Club Cleveland, OH (51): Boston Mills/Brandywine Boston, MA (21): Blue Hills Detroit, MI (23): Alpine Valley Detroit, MI (23). Riverview Highlands AKA Mt. Trashmore (lost) Saint Paul, MN (63): Buck Hill Pittsburgh, PA (65): Boyce Park Reno, NV (86): Mt. Rose Reno, NV (86); Sky Tavern ski area Reno, NV (86); Tannenbaum ski area (lost) Boise, ID (98): Bogus Basin Grand Rapids, MI (119): Cannonsburg Ski Area Worcester, MA (132), Mt. Wachusett. Worcester, MA (132): Ski Ward, Ontario, CA (145): Mt Baldy Springfield, MA (165): Blandford Syracuse, NY (184): Camillus Ski Hill Syracuse, NY (184): Drumlins (lost) Syracuse, NY (184): Four Seasons Syracuse, NY (184): Toggenburg Allentown, PA (231): Apple Hill (Lost) Allentown, PA (231): Bear Creek Allentown, PA (231): Blue Mountain Cambridge, MA (252): Blue Hills Cambridge, MA (252): Nashoba Valley Lowell, MA (262): Bradford Lowell, MA (262): Gateway Hills, NH Lowell, MA (262): Nashoba Manchester, NH (263): Gateway Hills
Cannnball: I reentered Manchester, NH and Pats Peak in googlemaps. Mine says 25.2 for the route that you show as 24.9.
Well your google maps must be broken!!
I guess I'm just a little better at tweaking back road-routes to find the shortest distance. I didn't just pick a route the Google maps offered, I found the shortest set of turns. Kind of a hobby of mine while driving around. Anyway, obviously your map is the authority so Pats is out (sorry Pats ) Just remind me never to take a walk with you. I hate going the unnecessarily long way!
Inside city limits: Did anyone mention Wheeling, WV - Oglebay Park ski area? This is a small (168' vertical), but legit area with a triple chair and snowmaking.
Not US, but Calgary, AB - Canada Olympic Park (significant suburban ski area with multiple chair lifts, ski jumps and focus on terrain parks).
Buffalo, NY (81): Buffalo Ski Club Providence, RI (137) Diamond Hill (lost) Providence, RI (137) Ski Valley (lost) Springfield, MA (165): Mt. Tom (lost) Hartford, CT (222): Mt. Southington Hartford, CT (222): Powder Ridge Hartford, CT (222): Ski Sundown
Suspect there are a few others near Buffalo, NY (81) - probably Rochester, NY (110) also.
Oops. Just realized Wheeling doesn't fit the definition of 100k city per OP. The MSA (metro statistical area) of Wheeling is ~150k, but that opens another can of worms about cities.
Oops. Just realized Wheeling doesn't fit the definition of 100k city per OP. The MSA (metro statistical area) of Wheeling is ~150k, but that opens another can of worms about cities.
No can of worms. If someone want to open that thread, go for it!
I'll do another summary a bit later, but a few notes:
Albany, NY is just under 100K population.
My google read on Providence to Yawgoo is 26.4 miles.
Comments
- From the city center?
- Driving distances (not as the crow flies)?
What else?
If the definition of "within" is really, "within," and within is indeed an absolute, virtually none of these qualify based on the population threshold.
None of the B-Hills qualify!
Buck Hill is not within the Minneapolis city limits, it is within Burnsville.
Blue Hills is not within the Boston city limits.
Boyce Park is not within the Pittsburgh city limits.
McIntyre is really quite an oddball. Given the parameters, McIntyre is the only operational lift-served ski area within city limits of a major city (100,000+ population)
There is one other I can find within a major city, Ruby Hill Rail Yard has snowmaking and free rental equipment but no lift.
Keep in mind, after someone's 25 miles came out closer to 50, I checked them all before I added them. For Cleveland, OH as the starting point, I looked at the routes and if the shortest recommended route was over 25 miles, I excluded it.
If you look at google maps it really is unusual, within the city limits. Good fun looking at all these!
Looks like under 25 miles, but anyway. Quibbling...
Sky Tavern ski area: actually has a Reno address, 10.5 miles from city limits, or 22 miles from downtown.
Tannenbaum ski area (lost): also had a Reno address, 9 miles from city limits, 20.2 from downtown
Morgan's Farm (lost, Cedar Grove NJ) 18.5 miles from Manhattan
- Blue Mountain: 18 miles
- Bear Creek: 16 miles
- Apple Hill 11 miles (Lost)
New York City, NY (1): Van Cortland Park (lost)
Philadelphia, PA (6): Walnut Hill (lost)
Colorado Springs, CO (42): Broadmoor Hotel (lost)
Minneapolis, MN (46): Buck Hill
Anchorage AK (67): Alyeska
Anchorage AK (67): Hilltop Ski Area
Manchester, NH:(263): McIntyre
Ski areas within 25 miles of a major city (100K population)
New York, NY (1): Morgan's Farm (lost)
Philadephia, PA (6): Pine Hill, NJ (lost)
Philadephia, PA (6): Wissahickon Ski Club
Cleveland, OH (51): Boston Mills/Brandywine
Boston, MA (21): Blue Hills
Detroit, MI (23): Alpine Valley
Detroit, MI (23). Riverview Highlands AKA Mt. Trashmore (lost)
Saint Paul, MN (63): Buck Hill
Pittsburgh, PA (65): Boyce Park
Reno, NV (86): Mt. Rose
Reno, NV (86); Sky Tavern ski area
Reno, NV (86); Tannenbaum ski area (lost)
Boise, ID (98): Bogus Basin
Grand Rapids, MI (119): Cannonsburg Ski Area
Worcester, MA (132), Mt. Wachusett.
Worcester, MA (132): Ski Ward,
Ontario, CA (145): Mt Baldy
Springfield, MA (165): Blandford
Syracuse, NY (184): Camillus Ski Hill
Syracuse, NY (184): Drumlins (lost)
Syracuse, NY (184): Four Seasons
Syracuse, NY (184): Toggenburg
Allentown, PA (231): Apple Hill (Lost)
Allentown, PA (231): Bear Creek
Allentown, PA (231): Blue Mountain
Cambridge, MA (252): Blue Hills
Cambridge, MA (252): Nashoba Valley
Lowell, MA (262): Bradford
Lowell, MA (262): Gateway Hills, NH
Lowell, MA (262): Nashoba
Manchester, NH (263): Gateway Hills
Got more?
I guess I'm just a little better at tweaking back road-routes to find the shortest distance. I didn't just pick a route the Google maps offered, I found the shortest set of turns. Kind of a hobby of mine while driving around. Anyway, obviously your map is the authority so Pats is out (sorry Pats
Did anyone mention Wheeling, WV - Oglebay Park ski area? This is a small (168' vertical), but legit area with a triple chair and snowmaking.
Not US, but Calgary, AB - Canada Olympic Park (significant suburban ski area with multiple chair lifts, ski jumps and focus on terrain parks).
Buffalo, NY (81): Buffalo Ski Club
Providence, RI (137) Diamond Hill (lost)
Providence, RI (137) Ski Valley (lost)
Springfield, MA (165): Mt. Tom (lost)
Hartford, CT (222): Mt. Southington
Hartford, CT (222): Powder Ridge
Hartford, CT (222): Ski Sundown
Suspect there are a few others near Buffalo, NY (81) - probably Rochester, NY (110) also.
> The shortest route I could find on Bing got me 24.8, so I will back up Pat's Peak as qualifying.
I cut the corners on the curves and got 24.7
edit. I didnt realize Albany only has a population of 98k
I'll do another summary a bit later, but a few notes:
Albany, NY is just under 100K population.
My google read on Providence to Yawgoo is 26.4 miles.
Another addition: Yonkers, NY (103): Same as NYC: