Abreviations or Acronyms as Trail Names

lotsoskiing

Middlebury: RTA- Ross To Allen

flbski

Snowmass - AMF - Adios Mother F…..

frozenforever

West Mountain, NY- AOAHunter-  I think there is one on the front called K-27 or something like that, not sure if that counts as an acronym or not

joshua_segal

<blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“lotsoskiing”>Middlebury: RTA- Ross To Allen</blockquote>

What does “Ross To Allen” mean?<blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“frozenforever”>West Mountain, NY- AOAHunter-  I think there is one on the front called K-27 or something like that, not sure if that counts as an acronym or not</blockquote>

What does AOA mean.  K-27, as far as I know, is not an acronym (or abbreviation).

bousquet19

RTA (Ross to Allen) at Middlebury connects the two runs called Ross and Allen on the main mountain.  See map.

Woody

Snowmaster

Not sure it’s what Huntah intended, but K-27 is a class of steam locomotives

newman

When it opened ( it was #27). It still is. Just like Westway is still 44 and White Cloud is still 45. I have no idea what the K is for.

DrJeff

<blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“joshua_segal”><blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“lotsoskiing”>Middlebury: RTA- Ross To Allen</blockquote>

What does AOA mean.  K-27, as far as I know, is not an acronym (or abbreviation).</blockquote>

West Mtn was my home mountain from 80-93 - all the instructors, race coaches, mtn admins, etc that I ever asked what AOA stood for always replied “nothing that they knew of” so it might actually just be AOA….

Always was a fun trail on a powder day - decent pitch and width

podunk77

Mount Snow:  N.E. Time (no significance that I know of, probably just another way of saying “Anytime”)http://www.mountsnow.com/our-media/blog/mount-snow/ne-time-and-snowdance/

DrJeff

<blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“podunk77”>Mount Snow:  N.E. Time (no significance that I know of, probably just another way of saying “Anytime”)http://www.mountsnow.com/our-media/blog/mount-snow/ne-time-and-snowdance/ </blockquote>

Yup, ski school just simply wanted another option and another lift to take beginners on when they’re done with the beginner area ANY TIME and that section of the One More Time became an abbreviated play on words via the marketing Dept, mtn ops and the ski school.

And arguably one could say the first snowmaking expansion of the West Lake era at Mount Snow as they’ve dragged some hoses over from the Snowdance run in and have some Ratnik ground guns covering “N.E. Time” now on a full time basis - occasionally in past season they had set up a few portable SMI POLECAT kid fan guns on that section of One More Time and then pulled water hoses and electrical lines through the woods from Snowdance run in

mapnut

I seem to recall hearing that Hunter tacked the K onto No. 27 to make it sound more steep and mountainous like K-2. I’d like to re-nominate KT-22 at Squaw which was left off Joshua’s list. Definitely an abbreviation as it stands for 22 Kick Turns.

joshua_segal

<blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“mapnut”>I seem to recall hearing that Hunter tacked the K onto No. 27 to make it sound more steep and mountainous like K-2. I’d like to re-nominate KT-22 at Squaw which was left off Joshua’s list. Definitely an abbreviation as it stands for 22 Kick Turns.</blockquote>

I tend to include only New England  (sometimes mid-Atlantic states) in my summaries which is why I omitted KT-22.

rickbolger

I beg to differ on Wilfred’s Gawm, we vetted this quite a bit on 1.0 and the consensus is that it was Wilfred’s gawm, not Wilfred’s GAWM (Wilfred’s Getting Away With Murder) makes no sense, people see it that way because Attitash uses all caps on their trail map.

“Gawm” is a mistake in parts of New England, and supposedly Wilfred ran the bulldozer in the wrong place or something like that.

Alternate spelling form, with pronunciation key

obienick

There’s no way that K27 is for the locomotive. That’s a narrow gauge locomotive from CO. Most of the trails at Hunter are named aver NYC streets.

rickbolger

According to an article on page 188 of SKI magazine, September 1969, “K-27 - The Terror of the Catskills”  Confirms what Newman said, it was number 27 because it was the 27th trail they built, and they added the “K” to echo “K2”  –  I believe this was mentioned earlier in this thread.  Article written by Archer Winsten gives you a LOT of information about this trail, how it was developed, etc.  Google it, it’s a fun read.  Mentions a Glenn Newman race instructor, any relation?

joshua_segal

Second summary:

NY

Hunter, HBK (Hellgate Broadway Kennedy)

VT

Bolton Valley, TNT (Tri Nitro Toluene), i.e. Dynamite (maybe: The New Trail)

Killington, FIS (Fédération Internationale de Ski)

Middlebury: RTA (Ross To Allen) A connector between two trails.

Mt. Snow, PDF [Peg (Walt Schoenknecht’s wife), Dot, Fred (Two of Walt’s close friends)]

Pico, K.A. (Karl Acker). Ski racer, ski instructor, and later mgr. of Pico

Smugglers’ Notch , FIS (Fédération Internationale de Ski) (added as per riverc0il’s comment below)

Sugarbush (Mt. Ellen), FIS (Fédération Internationale de Ski)

NH

Crotched Mtn., NCC-1701, (Naval Construction Contract - 1701)

Crotched Mtn., UFO, (Unidentified Flying Object) added as per tedede’s comment below

Dartmouth Skiway, MBA (Master of Business Administration)

Dartmouth Skiway, MD (Medical Doctor)

Whaleback, YOOYM (You’re Out Of Your Mind)

Waterville XC: HB (Hoober Bloob) Highway (as in Dr. Seuss)

Got more and/or corrections?

Rejected as per comments in this thread:

NH: Attitash, Wilfred’s Gawm

NH: Black Mtn., LOSTBO

NY: Hunter, K27

NY: West Mountain - AOA

Question: What does “TFR” at Bolton Valley stand for?

obienick

Sunday River:  T2 stands for the 2nd T-Bar, as T2 was the lift line for the mid-mountain to summit T-Bar on Locke.

If we’re including XC areas…

Jackson Ski Touring Foundation, NH has a trail “U.S.T.” standing for United States Super Tour, the US XC minor league to the World Cup (NorAm cup remains in Canada for XC).  It is a spur far away from their homologated race courses.

JSTF also had a “NASTAR Loop”, NASTAR of course standing for National Standard Race.  It was located on the Dana Place Inn property and I don’t think it ever saw even citizen racing.  With the closing of the Dana Place Inn and ever increasing difficulty of crossing the Ellis River on ice, it has been stricken from the map for the ’16-'17 winter.

Bretton Woods, NH has a trail “B&M” standing for Boston & Maine Railroad.  It is the old Mt. Washington branch of the B&M that split from the Maine Central at the Fabyan’s station and went to the base of the cog. It is as long and as flat and and as boring as you think (possibly more!)

Chuckstah

TBD trail at Cannon (Mittersill) To Be Determined. Still not determined.

joshua_segal

<blockquote class=“Quote” rel=“Chuckstah”>TBD trail at Cannon (Mittersill) To Be Determined. Still not determined. </blockquote>

This reminds me of a Crotched Mtn. story.  Before the Rocket was installed, the trail map showed what is now Jupiter Storm as To Be Developed (now Jupiter Storm).  We used to ski it through the pucker brush.  Sometimes we’d cut through the woods to get there and sometimes we’d climb to the top.  None of it was officially patrolled but the better patrollers would go over there from time to time.  One such day, a patroller found an injured skier.  While he did the rescue, the patroller told him he was lucky because he wasn’t on a patrolled trail.  The injured person said, “What do you mean?  It’s right here on the trail map!”

lotsoskiing

Pretty sure TAG at Oak Mt. in NY is an acronym, but not sure for what…will investigate

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