New Indy Pass stuff

riverc0il

justkeepmovingne;c-67709 wroteTenney is the mountain I’ve been hoping for the past 2 years. Thrilled they’re onboard now. I think the addition of Burke to the full pass really makes Indy the best pass out, too, for a New England skier.

Yea, having both of those added is huge. I-93 skiers really made out (Burke is essentially at the top of I-93). Burke is a massive addition. This makes a Jay/Burke week an option, then you can tag an extra area on the way up or back down, if you want.

Indy needs to fix Tenney's vertical, though. I mean, Tenney needs to fix their own self reported vertical. But no need for Indy to carry on the lie.

Tenney is 1400, not 1500. Pretty sure that 1400 is only because of the tubing area, too... 1500 maybe with the summit cut that is not lift serviced, but that doesn't count.

justkeepmovingne

A slight update on IndyPass - announced on Instagram that new resort announcement is coming shortly. Curious who they got to commit that's relevant to the Northeast or vacation destinations out West.

The Northeast is pretty saturated right now. My 3 biggest hopes this go around(and I'd be thrilled at even a single one of these) would be:

1) Bromley - really makes Southern Vermont a great weekend trip with Magic and S6
2) A ski area in New Mexico - an uncovered territory right now. Personally, I'd LOVE to see Ski Santa Fe (yes, a little self-serving as I visit family in ABQ multiple times a year)
3) Something in the Eastern Townships. I'd hope for Sutton to combine with Jay, but any of the Big 4 would be a gigantic win to me.

It'll probably be a random little hill in Central NY, a couple randos in the Midwest and a couple randoms in Italy or Japan but hey, one can hope.

NELSAP

If it's a New England area, a Nashoba, Blue Hill, Ski Ward, Powder Ridge, Sundown, , Granite Gorge would all be on that potential list as well. NY - wouldn't be surprised to see Willard, Thunder Ridge, Holiday Mtn, Mt. Peter. Oak and Plattekill and Southington are going on that Snow Triple Play card.

justkeepmovingne

Well, apparently there's more. If I had waited literally a couple minutes, I would have seen Indy's latest instagram post linking to a Powder article with a few key pieces of info.

Post: https://www.powder.com/news/indy-pass-back-on-sale

Indy back on sale 8/28
"Dozens" of new areas across 10 nations will be announced (including the US and Canada).
Learn to Turn Pass will be a new option. Includes 3 days of rentals, lessons and passes at participating areas. $189 for new members, $149 with referral code from a current Indy Pass holder (2 codes per person)

I'd guess the L2T pass is direct competition with Mountain Creek/Big Snow's pass that in the same price bracket with basically the same terms. Either way - I do think it's a great way to get people into skiing, and Indy's spread out base of ski areas - many if not most family oriented - make this an exceptional product for getting people into the sport at a cheap cost.

ciscokid

Why wait to disclose the “dozens”( so I guess at least 24 new areas)
Does anyone have a really good idea what they think some new ones will be?

If it’s all across the sea, doesn’t really interest me

justkeepmovingne

ciscokid;c-69991 wroteWhy wait to disclose the “dozens”( so I guess at least 24 new areas)
Does anyone have a really good idea what they think some new ones will be?

If it’s all across the sea, doesn’t really interest me

It won’t all be across the Ocean. They stated 10 countries (and listed them - I just won’t here), but 2 of those are the US and Canada. We can safely assume in that case at least 8 will be outside of the US/Canada.

I just haven’t a clue as to where they’ll be. My *hope* is something in the Eastern Townships and New Mexico, like I mentioned before. I’m not terribly optimistic though. They have a pretty good density across New England and New York, so I can’t imagine there’s much else substantial they can grab.

trackbiker

It would be great if Elk replaced Montage but it's essentially a competitor to Greek Peak for the Binghamton market so that may be a factor in adding Elk.

justkeepmovingne

Indy press release.

They’ve finally entered the QC game - Sutton and Owls Head are huge gets.

Cuchara a fun addition out west.

Nice variety of places out east participating in the Learn to Turn pass.

https://www.indyskipass.com/this-is-indy/news/2526-indy-passes-back-on-sale-after-adding-43-new-resorts-across-10-states-and-14-countries

lotsoskiing

Didn't know Cuchara reopened

shpride

lotsoskiing;c-70040 wroteDidn't know Cuchara reopened

I had never heard about it until this morning and having been reading about it. Interesting story about the rebirth

lotsoskiing

shpride;c-70041 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70040 wroteDidn't know Cuchara reopened
I had never heard about it until this morning and having been reading about it. Interesting story about the rebirth

Looks like a lower 400' vert. lift running, with plans to move uphill. Big Moose model. Selling passes for overall site use a la Hickory. Tough road...hope they can make it

NELSAP

Sutton and Owls Head like justkeepmovingne said is absolutely huge...between those two, Burke, and Jay, there's quite a concentration in NE VT and just across the border.

Was also excited to see Habitant and Valle Bleue in Quebec as well. I would be surprised if many of other SJ'ers have been to either before. Reply if you have. Habitant was great for night skiing. Valle Bleue we hit on a Monday and were literally the only skiers there for 2 hours - they actually turned the lift on just for us! They were completely shocked when we told them we were from Saratoga and were eagerly looking forward to skiing there area.

Mont Habitant:

Valle Bleue

justkeepmovingne

lotsoskiing;c-70042 wrote
shpride;c-70041 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70040 wroteDidn't know Cuchara reopened
I had never heard about it until this morning and having been reading about it. Interesting story about the rebirth

Looks like a lower 400' vert. lift running, with plans to move uphill. Big Moose model. Selling passes for overall site use a la Hickory. Tough road...hope they can make it.

It won't be easy to draw people without the whole area open, especially with the nearest sizable city being Colorado Springs; and even that is 2 hours away with heavy competition from bigger areas equal drive times away

Smart. I had remembered watching a documentary of Cuchara some 5-7 years ago. I hope it works out for them. On Big Moose, it sounds like they're really trying to gear up and make an effort to get the upper mountain open to more than cat skiing in the next 5 years or so. Apparently, they're doing trail work and maintenance up there for the first time in several years as of this week.

NewEnglandSkier13

justkeepmovingne;c-70044 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70042 wrote
shpride;c-70041 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70040 wroteDidn't know Cuchara reopened
I had never heard about it until this morning and having been reading about it. Interesting story about the rebirth

Looks like a lower 400' vert. lift running, with plans to move uphill. Big Moose model. Selling passes for overall site use a la Hickory. Tough road...hope they can make it.
It won't be easy to draw people without the whole area open, especially with the nearest sizable city being Colorado Springs; and even that is 2 hours away with heavy competition from bigger areas equal drive times away

Smart. I had remembered watching a documentary of Cuchara some 5-7 years ago. I hope it works out for them. On Big Moose, it sounds like they're really trying to gear up and make an effort to get the upper mountain open to more than cat skiing in the next 5 years or so. Apparently, they're doing trail work and maintenance up there for the first time in several years as of this week.

They've been clearing a few trails up there each of the last few years as funds are available.

millerm277

justkeepmovingne;c-70044 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70042 wrote
shpride;c-70041 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70040 wroteDidn't know Cuchara reopened
I had never heard about it until this morning and having been reading about it. Interesting story about the rebirth

Looks like a lower 400' vert. lift running, with plans to move uphill. Big Moose model. Selling passes for overall site use a la Hickory. Tough road...hope they can make it.
It won't be easy to draw people without the whole area open, especially with the nearest sizable city being Colorado Springs; and even that is 2 hours away with heavy competition from bigger areas equal drive times away

Smart. I had remembered watching a documentary of Cuchara some 5-7 years ago. I hope it works out for them. On Big Moose, it sounds like they're really trying to gear up and make an effort to get the upper mountain open to more than cat skiing in the next 5 years or so. Apparently, they're doing trail work and maintenance up there for the first time in several years as of this week.

I'll also point out that things have changed drastically in CO since the original closure in 2000. The extreme overcrowding and traffic on the I-70 corridor is pushing a lot of Front Range locals with 9-5s out of skiing/making them much more open to going anywhere that they don't have to deal with that.

Monarch and Wolf Creek are good places, but are both booming at least in part due to that.

Cuchara certainly has obstacles in their way and aren't working with the same terrain or snowfall, but I think it's somewhat more viable than it was in 2000 to get a sustainable level of visitation both as a little beginner place (with just what they've got in the near-term) + as a small resort (if they ever get a lift to the old summit), now that the I-70 corridor/adjacent spots present so many hurdles on weekends/holidays.

Being the closest choice for where to learn to ski for the >900k people in the Colorado Springs + Pueblo metro areas seems like a valid little niche today, and like you could drive enough visitation to support an upper mountain lift if you could get that going.

(And that the population of those two is up about ~250k since 2000 also probably helps).

riverc0il

The non-early discount no blackout pass seems to have really gotten up there at $600. Obviously, they now have enough major northeast areas to make the Indy a true alternative for those that want bigger mountain and resort skiing (obviously, it has always been a superb value for those that want to ski areas of all sizes, including smaller/local hills and mid-sized areas).

But it seems like the expansion has come at a cost. I think the Indy has just about doubled from its original debut price (maybe more than doubled? I seem to remember doing the Indy for $200ish their first year).

It is still a sensational deal for those that want to play the field. I wish it was around when I set about skiing almost every area in New England with at least 1k vert. But for only $200 more, I get unlimited at Jay and never have to worry about loading a card or visiting a customer service desk.

If they can get all areas on a single card, straight to the lift style (AND not needing a reservation, i.e. always guaranteed availability for Indy redemption), that would be quite nice.

ski_it

Good points. The price has been ratcheting up but I believe Indy+ was $419 if you did the early renewal. I have the numbers somewhere…. Someone needs to pay for that champagne.
Needs a hard look next season.

justkeepmovingne

ski_it;c-70048 wroteGood points. The price has been ratcheting up but I believe Indy+ was $419 if you did the early renewal. I have the numbers somewhere…. Someone needs to pay for that champagne.
Needs a hard look next season.

Yep. That’s the rate I renewed at.

The nice part: regardless of when you joined Indy, you always get the cheapest renewal rate for all future seasons.

ski_it

Any ideas where we find these referral codes mentioned? I know it says "will receive" but the “Learn to Turn” discount passes go on sale in just 2 days according to some other online sources.

skizilla

Have they announced all the areas yet or are there more to come

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