Vail Fail 2025/2026

ski_it

“Vail Resorts faces third class action over Epic Pass pricing. Shareholders claim the pricing scheme that doubled the cost to ski at Vail Resorts also violated the law.”
Good luck with that one.
https://courthousenews.com/vail-resorts-faces-third-class-action-over-epic-pass-pricing/

Beast Patroller

Whether these lawsuits go against Vail or not, it still puts a chink in their armor that will take a lot of good faith to buff out their reputation! There’s also mention of Vail violating antitrust laws which could bring in the feds! Personally, I would mind seeing Vail having to downsize their portfolio!

Chuckstah

Vail quarterly/ year end results are out today. Not looking particularly good.

Vail Resorts Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2026 Results and Provides Fiscal 2027 Outlook | Vail Resorts, Inc. https://share.google/QQYY4bcU1DCTbSgkw

Beast Patroller

I realize that last winter’s weather played some role in this, but it looks like the skiing public has finally reached their limit with Vail’s money grab! Sure, skiing has been a somewhat expensive sport for years, but between the cost of equipment, travel, lodging & food, paying between $200 - 400 a day for a lift ticket is too much! I also believe that, with climate change, the skiing public have decided they don’t want to bear all the risk by “investing” their hard-earned money in purchasing an Epic season pass.

Additionally, with the Indy Pass becoming so popular and independent mountains that are tied to other mountains like Berkshire East/Catamount, Burke/Smuggs pass, there are cheaper/less crowded alternatives out there.

rickbolger

Katz and the rest of these Vail Inc. people may be insufferable, but they aren’t stupid. they still managed to eke out $147 million profit FY 2026. The midcap and total market funds in your 401k will swell ever so slightly. Moving forward, look for single day ticket discounts of some sort. For someone like myself, who wants to ski Wildcat or Okemo one-off here and there, it could be an improvement. Right now the price of a 2-day whatever is indeed keeping me at the Indy stuff, as Beast Patroller mentions above.

trackbiker

rickbolger

Ever so slightly is correct at 2.8%. : )

rickbolger

MTN is dividend, not growth. Right now that dividend is very good but suffering from high payout ratio, strangling their ability to make on-mountain upgrades, and is at the heart of the ongoing proxy battle. And it’s threatening to get them yanked from SCHD. Without the dividend it’s a $40 stock (IMHO)

Beast Patroller

My wife & I bought our place in Wilmington back in April 2019 primarily to ski Mt. Snow. After our first winter & COVID, we cautiously bought passes for the 20–21 season. Without getting into a long story, Vail lied and screwed us along with many others. The following season, we still decided to buy passes because of our second home, but the introduction of paid parking changed that. We went back to B’East and have been skiing there ever since! This year, after 5 years of boycotting Vail and their Epic pass, we’ve decided to give them another try and bought the Northeast Value Midweek pass (along with our B’East passes). We’ll see how skiing midweek is there but if it’s more of the same (crowds & reckless skiing), we’re done and if it’s good, we’ll continue buying passes.

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