Vail Fail 2025/2026

NELSAP

I like Stewart's as well...they have some tasty breakfast sandwiches. They are one of the only places I can actually walk to from my house (including Scotty's Truck Stop/Restaurant).

justkeepmovingne

ski_itJR;c-70813 wroteBig stewarts fan. They got good ice cream.

I didn't know stewarts bought out Jolley Go. I wonder if that would impact the pepsi BOGO deal that Jay and Smuggs do through Jolley Go.

I was curious about the same. According to this comment on Facebook from someone whose profile says they're a front office manager at Jay Peak, they're done with that "specific BOGO with the gas station", but they're working on a new discount and will release info on it when its finalized.

The specific language makes me assume it's going to be pretty similar - might just be a different store, different product but still BOGO. Just speculation though.

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Beast Patroller

We're kind of getting off subject here! Outside of the billboard nothing else is Vail related.

skelley19

Beast Patroller;c-70822 wroteWe're kind of getting off subject here! Outside of the billboard nothing else is Vail related.

Has snowmaking started at any of Vail's NH properties yet?

DrJeff

skelley19;c-70823 wrote
Beast Patroller;c-70822 wroteWe're kind of getting off subject here! Outside of the billboard nothing else is Vail related.
Has snowmaking started at any of Vail's NH properties yet?

Only Crotched HASN'T had snowmaking pictures. videos up on their social media feeds the last few weeks. Wildcat, Attitash and Sunapee have been making snow the last week or so

rickbolger

Beast Patroller;c-70822 wroteWe're kind of getting off subject here! Outside of the billboard nothing else is Vail related.

Respectfully disagree! Pete Seibert was born in Sharon MA -- which according to wikipedia is part of "Greater Boston" (aka Beantown)

shpride

DrJeff;c-70824 wrote
skelley19;c-70823 wrote
Beast Patroller;c-70822 wroteWe're kind of getting off subject here! Outside of the billboard nothing else is Vail related.
Has snowmaking started at any of Vail's NH properties yet?
Only Crotched HASN'T had snowmaking pictures. videos up on their social media feeds the last few weeks. Wildcat, Attitash and Sunapee have been making snow the last week or so

I just drove by Attitash. They have snow make on both Attitash and Bear Peak

joshua_segal

As of today, all Vail’s Vermont areas are open.

tedede

joshua_segal;c-70831 wroteAs of today, all Vail’s Vermont areas are open.

Last year they opened on the 20th, this is clearly a Vale Fale!

DrJeff

tedede;c-70832 wrote
joshua_segal;c-70831 wroteAs of today, all Vail’s Vermont areas are open.
Last year they opened on the 20th, this is clearly a Vale Fale!

Not true. Okemo opened on December 1st last year, and Mount Snow opened a few days later during that 1st week in December last year. Can't remember when Stowe opened last year. It was a warm November last year

tedede

Sorry, that was 2022 Snow opened on Nov 20.

Beast Patroller

rickbolger;c-70825 wrote

Respectfully disagree! Pete Seibert was born in Sharon MA -- which according to wikipedia is part of "Greater Boston" (aka Beantown)[/quote]

I don't understand what Pete Seibert or Sharon MA has to do with Vail??

lotsoskiing

Beast Patroller;c-70837 wrote
rickbolger;c-70825 wrote
Respectfully disagree! Pete Seibert was born in Sharon MA -- which according to wikipedia is part of "Greater Boston" (aka Beantown)

I don't understand what Pete Seibert or Sharon MA has to do with Vail??

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Founded Vail

Beast Patroller

Thanks, now I understand! We certainly can't blame Pete for the current state of affairs with Vail though.

rickbolger

Vail Resorts Inc. (NYSE: MTN) went public in 1997 after it was taken over by Apollo Global Management, then under the direction of Leon Black and Tony Ressler. Black obtained his MBA from Harvard University; surely Cambridge is regarded as part of Greater Boston. Ressler is married to actress Jamie Gertz, who had a recurring role in the television show Ally McBeal, which I'm told was set in a fictional Boston law firm.

;)

powderstud

rickbolger;c-70849 wroteVail Resorts Inc. (NYSE: MTN) went public in 1997 after it was taken over by Apollo Global Management, then under the direction of Leon Black and Tony Ressler. Black obtained his MBA from Harvard University...

Leon Black is also the billionaire financier who was a good friend of Jeffrey Epstein, who paid Epstein $170+ million for "tax and estate advice" <cough> <cough> over a 5-year period. After being pushed out of Apollo by his fellow snake co-founders, he's been in and out of courtrooms fighting against former paramours, a teenager who claimed she was raped by him, etc. He also paid $62.5 million to the U.S. Virgin Islands government to settle an investigation into his dealings with Epstein. And he also paid....

lotsoskiing

powderstud;c-70850 wrote
rickbolger;c-70849 wroteVail Resorts Inc. (NYSE: MTN) went public in 1997 after it was taken over by Apollo Global Management, then under the direction of Leon Black and Tony Ressler. Black obtained his MBA from Harvard University...
Leon Black is also the billionaire financier who was a good friend of Jeffrey Epstein, who paid Epstein $170+ million for "tax and estate advice" <cough> <cough> over a 5-year period. After being pushed out of Apollo by his fellow snake co-founders, he's been in and out of courtrooms fighting against former paramours, a teenager who claimed she was raped by him, etc. He also paid $62.5 million to the U.S. Virgin Islands government to settle an investigation into his dealings with Epstein. And he also paid....

Wonderful. To be rich and a scumbag...makes me dislike Vail even more

ski_it

lotsoskiing;c-70851 wrote Wonderful. To be rich and a scumbag...makes me dislike Vail even more

and that’s surprising how?

lotsoskiing

ski_it;c-70858 wrote
lotsoskiing;c-70851 wrote Wonderful. To be rich and a scumbag...makes me dislike Vail even more
and that’s surprising how?

Am not surprised.

powderstud

There's a great article waiting to be written about how the private equity industry has greatly damaged the ski industry and the ski experience (along with virtually every other industry they've touched).

But hey, at the end of the day that's what PE firms like Apollo, Blackstone, KKR, etc. all do - they load up the target companies with debt (Apollo got control of Vail by acquiring the company's debt for pennies on the dollar, and then ultimately took control of the company and pushed out the previous leadership), squeeze the companies dry once they have control by taking out enormous amounts of cash that most businesses can't support indefinitely (and the companies resultingly jack up prices for customers, squeeze employees, trade creditors, etc.), hack off pieces of the company and sell them off to further line their own pockets, and then often leave the companies' corpses in bankruptcy.

The fact is, the overall cost of skiing for us has gone way up during PE's activities.

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