Trails that are named as two halves of an expression

joshua_segaljoshua_segal
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I'm pretty sure we had this one on SJ1.0, but since that's inaccessible, I thought we could revisit it.  To start:

Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.
Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)
Gore: Agony and Ecstasy.

What can you add?
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  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing
    Posts: 3,575
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road
  • NELSAPNELSAP
    Posts: 1,097
    I don't think Gore has Agony and Ecstasy - Sunday River?
    Gore has Rumor and Lies though.
    JD
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing
    Posts: 3,575
    NELSAP said:

    I don't think Gore has Agony and Ecstasy - Sunday River?
    Gore has Rumor and Lies though.
    JD

    You are correct.

    What is the backstory on Rumor and Lies? I thought I read it somewhere. Wasn't there a third one (Innuendo?) in the mix?
  • NELSAPNELSAP
    Posts: 1,097
    I joke that the lie with Lies is that it is a double black. When groomed, it's a high black.

    JD
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing
    Posts: 3,575
    NELSAP said:

    I joke that the lie with Lies is that it is a double black. When groomed, it's a high black.

    JD

    Rumor has quite the pitch, though.
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal
    Posts: 4,839
    Summary/Correction #1
    NH
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Did we determine that there is also an "Innuendo"?

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    Got more?
  • NELSAPNELSAP
    Posts: 1,097
    Rumor is wicked steep, agreed!
  • riverc0ilriverc0il
    Posts: 742
    Sunday River has Heat's On / Heat's Off. Not an expression but they go together. 
    -Steve
    thesnowway.com
  • NewEnglandSkier13NewEnglandSkier13
    Posts: 5,479
    riverc0il said:

    Sunday River has Heat's On / Heat's Off. Not an expression but they go together. 


    Hi Road/Lo Road and Big Dipper/Little Dipper at Black, NH are the same idea
    - Sam
  • mapnutmapnut
    edited November 2017 Posts: 1,033

    I think Innuendo was a trail that Gore started to cut but thought better of. You can see a trace of it on aerial photos, between Rumor and Lies.

  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing
    Posts: 3,575
    mapnut said:

    I think Innuendo was a trail that Gore started to cut but thought better of. You can see a trace of it on aerial photos, between Rumor and Lies.

    I see that now, thanks. GE labels the connector to Lies as "The Mistake" (and calls Rumor "The Rumor")
  • bobbuttsbobbutts
    Posts: 145
    Ragged: Rags To  -> Riches
  • z1000307470z1000307470
    Posts: 469
    mapnut said:

    I think Innuendo was a trail that Gore started to cut but thought better of. You can see a trace of it on aerial photos, between Rumor and Lies.

    This is correct. Supposedly, it was all rock ledge where Gore wanted to cut the trail and it would have been difficult to maintain snow on the trail.
  • rickbolgerrickbolger
    edited November 2017 Posts: 2,962
    Little & Big Dipper as mentioned above, also at Snow, Catamount has Off Stage & On Stage 

    But I don't think these qualify as an expression?

    If somebody says something outrageous, you might respond "Rumours and Lies!"

    Not sure when the response would be "Little Dipper and Big Dipper!" or "In road and Out road!"

    ???   Never used either expression, personally speaking.

    Who's in charge of this thread?  
    :D
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal
    Posts: 4,839
    Summary/Corrections #2

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    NH
    Ragged: Rags To / Riches
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Innuendo was planned but not completed)

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)

    Pairs that aren't half of an expression:
    ME
    Sunday River: Heat's On / Heat's Off

    NH
    Black Mtn.: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Black Mtn.: Big Dipper/Little Dipper

    NY
    Catamount: Off Stage / On Stage 

    VT
    Mt. Snow: Little Dipper / Big Dipper 
    Killington: High Road/Low Road
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    Got more?
  • rickbolgerrickbolger
    Posts: 2,962
    well if you are talking "complimentary" trail names rather than "expressions"

    Gore has "Wood-In" and "Wood-Out"   I am not making that up
  • bousquet19bousquet19
    Posts: 515
    rickbolger said:

    well if you are talking "complimentary" trail names rather than "expressions"


    Gore has "Wood-In" and "Wood-Out"   I am not making that up
    Always follow orders!

    Woody
  • HarveyHarvey
    Posts: 41
    Lies is plenty steep. Is the headwall or average pitch in the top 10 in the state? Almost anything with new corduroy on it isn't that hard.

    Also at Gore: Wood In and Wood Out.

    NYSkiBlog.com
  • HarveyHarvey
    Posts: 41
    Oops sorry rick. Didn't see your post.
    NYSkiBlog.com
  • bousquet19bousquet19
    Posts: 515
    Two from the Mid-Atlantic:

    Canaan Valley, WV:  Weiss Way In and Weiss Way Out  (to enter and leave the 3 Weiss Meadows runs)

    Timberline, WV:  Herz and Hiz (two short connector trails; Fred Herz is founder and co-owner of T-line)

    Woody
  • bmwskierbmwskier
    Posts: 1,032
    Not sure if this qualifies but at Bolton the Devil's Playground is off of Preacher.
    "Making ski films is being irresponsible with other people's money, in a responsible sort of way..." <div>Greg Stump</div>
  • lotsoskiinglotsoskiing
    Posts: 3,575
    joshua_segal said:

    Summary/Corrections #2

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    NH
    Ragged: Rags To / Riches
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Innuendo was planned but not completed)

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)

    Pairs that aren't half of an expression:
    ME
    Sunday River: Heat's On / Heat's Off

    NH
    Black Mtn.: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Black Mtn.: Big Dipper/Little Dipper

    NY
    Catamount: Off Stage / On Stage 

    VT
    Mt. Snow: Little Dipper / Big Dipper 
    Killington: High Road/Low Road
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    Got more?
    Sugarbush also has Hi Road/Lo Road on Castlerock.
  • mapnutmapnut
    Posts: 1,033
    High Road and Low Road should count since it's a song lyric (Loch Lomond).
  • rickbolgerrickbolger
    Posts: 2,962
    mapnut said:

    High Road and Low Road should count since it's a song lyric (Loch Lomond).

    I thought about that but concluded no, separate thread.

    Song lyrics.


    :)]
  • bobbuttsbobbutts
    Posts: 145
    Much easier when it doesn't have to be an expression.   Got a few:
    Raggedy Ann & Raggedy Andy at Ragged again.
    Big Dipper & Double Dipper at Killington
    Psyched and Psyched Out at Waterville
  • JonniJonni
    Posts: 214
    You can probably add Lemon and Lime at Sunapee to that list. They are on South Peak in carpet world.
  • mapnutmapnut
    Posts: 1,033
    Stratton ought to have an Ursa Major and Ursa Minor.
  • joshua_segaljoshua_segal
    edited February 2018 Posts: 4,839
    Summary/Corrections #3

    ME
    Sunday River: Agony and Ecstasy.

    NH
    Ragged: Rags To / Riches
    Ragged: Raggedy Ann & Raggedy Andy
    Waterville Valley: Tippecanoe; And Tyler too.

    NY
    Gore: Rumor and Lies (Innuendo was planned but not completed)
    Swain Resort: Last Will/Testament (added 2/7/2018)

    VT
    Killington: Rime/Reason (Rhyme and Reason)

    WV
    Timberline:  Herz and Hiz (Fred Herz is founder and co-owner of T-line)


    Pairs that aren't half of an expression:
    ME
    Sunday River: Heat's On / Heat's Off

    NH
    Attitash: Far Out/Farther Out (added 2/7/2018)
    Black Mtn.: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Black Mtn.: Big Dipper/Little Dipper
    Sunapee: Lemon/Lime
    Waterville: Psyched/Psyched Out

    NY
    Catamount: Off Stage / On Stage 
    Gore: Wood In/Wood Out

    VT
    Mt. Snow: Little Dipper / Big Dipper 
    Killington: Big Dipper/Double Dipper
    Killington: High Road/Low Road
    Killington: Somewhere / Nowhere (added 2/7/18)
    Killington: Tin Man / Scarecrow (added 2/7/18)
    Sugarbush: Hi Road/Lo Road
    Sugarbush: In Road/ Out Road

    WV
    Canaan Valley:  Weiss Way In / Weiss Way Out  (to enter and leave the 3 Weiss Meadows runs)


    Got more?
  • rickbolgerrickbolger
    Posts: 2,962
    We can use Rags to Riches in the song lyrics thread!  Old tony bennett tune


  • obienickobienick
    Posts: 1,435
    Adding to the list:

    Killington:

    * Somewhere / Nowhere
    * Tin Man / Scarecrow
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